Today, we’re going to take a look at a nicely made, Sal Glesser designed, more compact knife from Spyderco’s Chinese factories, the Alcyone.
Price: $54.60
Spyderco Tenacious Value Folding Knife with 3.39" Black Stainless Steel Blade and Durable G-10 Handle - PlainEdge - C122GBBKP
GAME CHANGER - Being tenacious means you are persistent and cohesive. It's being tough and tireless in achieving your best performance; all worthy descriptive words for a hard-use knife SUPERIOR BLADE STEEL - The 3.39" 8Cr13MoV stainless blade is coa... (as of July 6, 2020 - More infoProduct prices and availability are accurate as of the date/time indicated and are subject to change. Any price and availability information displayed on [relevant Amazon Site(s), as applicable] at the time of purchase will apply to the purchase of this product.)
Price: $49.00
Spyderco Tenacious Lightweight Value Folding Knife with 3.39" Black Stainless Steel Blade and Durable Black FRN Handle - PlainEdge - C122PBBK
GAME CHANGER - Being tenacious means you are persistent and cohesive. It's being tough and tireless in achieving your best performance; all worthy descriptive words for a hard-use knife SUPERIOR BLADE STEEL - The 3.39" 8Cr13MoV stainless blade is gro... (as of July 6, 2020 - More infoProduct prices and availability are accurate as of the date/time indicated and are subject to change. Any price and availability information displayed on [relevant Amazon Site(s), as applicable] at the time of purchase will apply to the purchase of this product.)
Price: $97.97
Spyderco Para 3 Lightweight Signature Folding Knife with 2.58" Stainless Steel Blade and Durable FRN Handle - PlainEdge Grind - C223PBK
THE NEW EDC - The Para 3 distills all the features of that best-in-class folding knife into a more compact, carry-friendly package. It proudly features all the key qualities of the Para Military 2, including a full-flate-ground CPM S30V Steel Blade. ... (as of July 6, 2020 - More infoProduct prices and availability are accurate as of the date/time indicated and are subject to change. Any price and availability information displayed on [relevant Amazon Site(s), as applicable] at the time of purchase will apply to the purchase of this product.)
Price: $151.17
Sorry, I would rather spend a few extra bucks and get a frn chaparral.
Spyderco really needs to bring the budget value back. That’s basically a tenacious in a different color for $20 more
So it’s the Ambitious 2.0? Really could’ve just called the Alcyone and Polestar the Ambitious 2 and Tenacious 2.
Probably would’ve attracted more people who otherwise feel they’re just ripping themselves.
i know they arent always available but with as successful as they have been im sure massdrop will be doing runs of “gents” every few months or the kershaws in 390 for 15 more bucks and vastly better knives . i just dont understand spyderco anymore
Let’s be real on the price front, the Spyderco Spider is starting to look a lot like the Benchmade Butterfly. With the recent price hike everything in their lineup just seems a bit overpriced. The Spyderco tax is starting to become a real thing.
“Gription” @2:34 You truly are the Shakespeare of our times. Your inventiveness with the English language is awe inspiring!
I know you picked this knife just so you could make that pun at the end. Two thumbs up.
I know his tests aren’t the be all end all, but in Pete’s rope test BD1 kicked VG-10’s butt on edge retention. It was actually quite close to his result for Taiwanese D2 in the Rat series.
“If you like sharpening you’re going to love this steel” — Classic Nick line.
At the price I wouldn’t even consider this knife. Too many other choices in that price range or less.
Should retail for $45 or less. Nick has reviewed many nice Chinese made knives for less.
Someone send this man a Tangram Sante Fe.
Best way to start my morning hahah
got a Polestar a couple weeks ago and am finally getting the chance to put it in the pocket this week. Spyderco has gotten a bit lax lately and the competition is fierce. The 2018 knife game is serious. Steel Will, QSP, ESEE ,NA, Kershaw and even Gerber have caught wind, the “butterfly tax” seems less one sided , while the “spyder tax” appears to have come full circle without much to gain. Its not enough to completely lose interest (like a certain sharpened spoon from the north) but it is enough to cause interest in how others play the field at the same time. Your reviews are about as honest and accurate as one can get and my collection reflects such . Thank you Mr Shabazz. -Ollie
Meh. Spyderco has enough similar budget knives. I take a Rat model all day everyday over this. And I’m a big Spyderco fan. If I owned the company, I’d price this really low (like not making a profit low) to get people into the brand.
Wrote Alycone in the title instead of Alcyone lol
I think it’s pretty ugly using a softer steel that you’ll need to sharpen more often without a sharpening choil. It’s going to be frustrating.
Cedric’s test show bd1 having better retention than d2 and close to 154cm. It’s good stuff.
Great video. Could you do a review on the zt 0462cf?
I was looking forward to another shabazz video, but then I got an ad from PragerU douchebags. Ruined the mood.
The detent on my example is really strong.
Could you re review the Chris Reeve small Sebenza because going back to the old video it felt like I was watching a totally different nick. Also would love to know if your preferences have changed regarding the small Sebenza?
I no longer buy knives from the Big Two (Spyderco/Benchmade) because their prices are becoming absurd. My last new purchase was the Shaman before the price hike and it will be the last. I’m now purchasing from internet groups/forums etc and only from long-term trusted members who include the original box, papers, description, photographs and often-times receipt too, so I know I’m getting the real deal. I’m buying near ‘mint in box’ knives for two thirds of retail and sometimes a bit less if I haggle. Small wonder that regularly excellent Chinese knives are eclipsing the quality and value of the ‘must-have’ Made-In-America products.
Alycone
I like the G10, but other than that it’s not really appealing.
A lot of guys would love a tenacious with s35vn. One with bd1 is very meh. This whole line of knives does absolutely nothing for me at the prices they’re asking.
None of Spydero’s knives are pocket efficient.
The scales are motley!
Meh, looks like a faded drop cloth instead of handle scales.
And the great thing is is that the Glesser’s are watching this!! So the verdict is out Sal and Eric!! Look at all the comments. Your knives are getting ridiculously overpriced. This is a prime example. I have been saying this for 2 years now. I have a lot of your knives too, but I have not purchased your knives since I began saying this. So 2 yrs I have been purchasing knives from other brands that have way better value.
Um. Yeah. Spend a few more bucks and get a Delica.
Ill always have special feelings for chinese Spydercos because my first “good” pocket knife was a semi serrated tenacious i bought on vacation in Spain 🙂
That’s why I look here first, Thanks
No thanks. The Polestar is one of the most unnecessary knives ever made, in my opinion.
It costs 20 bucks more than a Tenacious and the only advantage you get is a slight increase in steel quality. Meanwhile, the Byrd Raven 2 also has BD1 steel, the added bonus of a finger choil, and costs the same as a Tenacious.
Also, Nick, I don’t necessarily agree with you that you pay for design. You pay for materials, construction and fit & finish. There are a lot of really expensive knives with great designs, but there are also a ton of budget knives with great designs. Design is too subjective a thing to rate in dollars signs.
As for Spyderco… Yep, it’s been years since I’ve seen anything from them that I consider value for money. I bought the Shaman, because I consider it to be Sal’s masterpiece, but I think I’m done with Spyderco.
speaking of official chinese spydercos
step on over to the byrd line
this design lives in a couple of those models, noteably the raven 2 and crow2
The part of this knife I like least is the clip/ lanyard hole area. Does anyone even use lanyards? Do I have to suffer because of that? Life is hard.
At $40 this would be a great knife. At $62 I can’t see any reason to not spend $25 more and get the Chaparral. Better steel, Taichung vs. China, better clip, better in the pocket. Matter of opinion of FRN of this G10 are better. Agree there are many other good Chinese knives that costs less. I’m sure Spyderco thought using U.S. steel was a good idea. No doubt that costs them more money, as does getting higher level fit and finish.
al-ashy-uh-nee. Third largest star in the constellation Taurus. I would have pronounced it just like you did Nick.
Could you try doing a poll or the like about: Who actually uses lanyards in folding knives? My guess is nearly no one, and those that do just do it, because that’s the way they’ve always done it.
I’m interested in this knife, so I’m just going to wait until it’s discontinued to get it at a reasonable price. $60 is dragonfly price, that’s too high for what’s there to me.
Thank you Nick, about time someone concedes that $60 isn’t in the budget price arena.